{"id":69886,"date":"2019-04-24T17:11:13","date_gmt":"2019-04-24T15:11:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/espores.org\/?p=69886"},"modified":"2025-07-08T10:38:16","modified_gmt":"2025-07-08T08:38:16","slug":"botanist-of-the-month-elena-carrio","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/espores.org\/en\/interviews\/botanist-of-the-month-elena-carrio\/","title":{"rendered":"Botanist of the month: Elena Carri\u00f3"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Why did you choose Botany?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">My choice for Botany was an emotionally based decision that goes back to my childhood. I also owe this inclination to my family, especially my grandfather and my uncle, who were wonderful encouragers of my curiosity for biology and plants. Moreover, I was lucky to have a great biology teacher at school, who kept my interest active.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"393\" class=\" size-full wp-image-41044\" src=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/07_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Tavernes.jpg\" alt=\"07 Trabajo de campo en Tavernes\" srcset=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/07_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Tavernes.jpg 900w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/07_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Tavernes-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/07_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Tavernes-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\"><br>Doing fieldwork in Tavernes for the thesis:: <a href=\"https:\/\/dialnet.unirioja.es\/servlet\/tesis?codigo=86600\"><em>La hibridaci\u00f3n en el origen de especies en el g\u00e9nero Anthirrhinum (Scrophulariaceae)<\/em><\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Throughout your career, you have participated in several projects. Are you especially proud of any of them?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I feel especially satisfied with every project in which I have participated and that have contributed to the conservation of plant species. For example, having contributed along with more than 240 authors in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.conservacionvegetal.org\/publicaciones.php?id_categoria=62\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Atlas y Libro Rojo de la Flora Vascular Amenazada de Espa\u00f1a<\/em><\/a>. The initiative started in 2000 and updated knowledge on the conservation status of the Spanish flora. The botanists organized themselves into more than 25 work teams in order to collect field data on more than 600 taxa likely to be threatened.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"425\" class=\" size-full wp-image-41046\" src=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/08_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Almeria.jpg\" alt=\"08 Trabajo de campo en Almeria\" srcset=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/08_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Almeria.jpg 900w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/08_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Almeria-300x216.jpg 300w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/08_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Almeria-768x553.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\"><br>Doing fieldwork in Almer\u00eda.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>How important is a project like this, for example, to society?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The <em>Atlas y Libro Rojo de la Flora Vascular Amenazada de Espa\u00f1a<\/em> project was a pioneer in Europe.<br>It generated a great deal of information about the size and location of plant populations and was an important step forward in the conservation of our most threatened flora. The results of this project allow to prioritize the conservation actions towards taxa that have a bigger risk of extinction and establish a basis for governments to make fair and coherent decisions on their legal protection. Society benefits from the results of this type of project in many ways. Directly or indirectly, this type of initiative contribute to maintaining biodiversity, social well-being, establishing an ethic of responsibility for our environment, to stop the indiscriminate use of resources. Or, more practically, they also help, as we have mentioned, to guide better where spending should go.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"393\" class=\" size-full wp-image-41048\" src=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/00_camp.jpg\" alt=\"00 camp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/00_camp.jpg 900w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/00_camp-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/00_camp-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\"><br>Fieldwork, observing pollinators in Val\u00e8ncia.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>How has your job changed over the years?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I started my research in 2001. During the first years, I spent most of my time collecting field data. In the past few years, there has been an increase in bioinformatics, molecular techniques and the study of predictive models applied to plant ecology. I have integrated some of these advances in my work, because these new techniques have the advantage of being used in a complementary way and allow to approach the study of plants from different angles to test evolutionary or ecological hypotheses. From my point of view, these techniques can also reduce the need of the investigator to go to the field and I see the disadvantage that they can disconnect you \u201cemotionally\u201d from the group of plants or the biological process you are studying, taking some of the passion out of the research.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"393\" class=\" size-full wp-image-41050\" src=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/02_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Creta.jpg\" alt=\"02 Trabajo de campo en Creta\" srcset=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/02_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Creta.jpg 900w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/02_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Creta-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/02_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Creta-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><br><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\">With botanists on a visit to the island of Crete.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>What project are you working on now?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Currently, I\u2019m studying the effect of climate change on hybridization between wild plants. Spontaneous hybridization between plant species is a frequent phenomenon in nature and it affects the diversity of species and the conservation of natural resources, because, depending on the circumstances, it can lead species towards genetic impoverishment or extinction. Or, on the contrary, enrich them genetically and improve their characteristics. The question I would like to answer specifically is whether climate change will affect the rate at which species spontaneously hybridize in nature, if the effect will vary according to the ecological characteristics of the species and if the effect will vary according to the types of ecosystems.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"393\" class=\" size-full wp-image-41052\" src=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/01_Laboratorio_Actual.jpg\" alt=\"01 Laboratorio Actual\" srcset=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/01_Laboratorio_Actual.jpg 900w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/01_Laboratorio_Actual-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/01_Laboratorio_Actual-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><br><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\">With the PLANGER research group, in which Elena Carri\u00f3 is currently working, at the Polytechnic University of Madrid.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"393\" class=\" size-full wp-image-41054\" src=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/03_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Valdemanco.jpg\" alt=\"03 Trabajo de campo en Valdemanco\" srcset=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/03_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Valdemanco.jpg 900w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/03_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Valdemanco-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/03_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Valdemanco-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><br><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\">Fieldwork in Valdemanco. Studying an area of hybridization of two species of rockroses (<em>Cistus<\/em>) in the Sierra de Madrid.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>What is the essential skill for your job?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For me, tenacity and perseverance. I also think that responsibility to others and to oneself is an important ingredient, even if it is not essential for success.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>How do you assess the employment situation in the sector?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Data from the last two years indicate that research and development spending in Spain is half that of the European Union. In the last decade, Spain has experienced a continuous reduction of the investment effort in R&amp;D, which has had a negative impact on the scientific and technological system. According to these data, my assessment of the employment situation in the sector is that it could improve a lot with a new orientation of the public spending budget. I think that bringing us up to the European average in terms of spending on research would bring many benefits to our society.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"393\" class=\" size-full wp-image-41056\" src=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/09_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Marruecos.jpg\" alt=\"09 Trabajo de campo en Marruecos\" srcset=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/09_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Marruecos.jpg 900w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/09_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Marruecos-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/09_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Marruecos-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\"> <br>Fieldwork in Morocco. Sampling campaign in Lakraa mountain.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>What is the role of science popularization?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think it is fundamental. Dissemination decodes scientific information and sends it through many signals to society, which receives it, processes it and can make decisions to change what it doesn\u2019t like and boost what it does like. Scientific activity gains meaning and becomes even more justified thanks to dissemination, so I think it is important to take care of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Does your job allow you to learn about topics that aren\u2019t related to Botany?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I do believe that my job allows me to learn about other topics that aren\u2019t strictly focused on Botany. For example, not long ago I prepared some classes about the conservation of plan species and wildlife as part of a course in anthrozoology, which is a discipline that studies the relationship between humans and nature, specially, between humans and the non-human animals. To situate the lectures within the context of the course, I did some research and learned about the types of interactions between humans and non-human animals, as well as the conflict situations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"393\" class=\" size-full wp-image-41058\" src=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/11_Visita_Japon.jpg\" alt=\"11 Visita Jap\u00f3n\" srcset=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/11_Visita_Japon.jpg 900w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/11_Visita_Japon-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/11_Visita_Japon-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><br><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\">With botanists in Japan, during a stay at Hokkaido University.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Have you met interesting people thanks to your job?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, I\u2019ve been lucky to meet many people with very different interests from whom I\u2019ve learned a lot. This job allows you to move around a lot and it offers opportunities to talk to investigators from your country and other countries. Investigators are usually curious people, who are also interested in other things apart from what they study, so it is very enriching to share with all of them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"439\" class=\" size-full wp-image-41060\" src=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/12_Visita_Madagascar.jpg\" alt=\"12 Visita Madagascar\" srcset=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/12_Visita_Madagascar.jpg 900w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/12_Visita_Madagascar-300x223.jpg 300w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/12_Visita_Madagascar-768x572.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><br><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\">With other volunteers during a visit to environmental projects in Madagascar.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Regarding teaching, what do you think it is the most important thing?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For me, the most important thing is knowing how to train competent, critical and social committed professionals. It is not possible to teach these competencies by only informing students through the contents of a classical syllabus. That\u2019s why I think it is important that students, in addition to being trained to be good professionals, are provided with tools that go further and foster a critical and committed spirit based on the exercise of their profession. From my point of view, our current social environment is going through a tough situation that needs something more than professionals, it needs people who are capable of improving any product or circumstance for the benefit of everyone and for the benefit of our environment. And for that it is necessary to know how to think critically.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>How do you imagine future botanists?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the near future, I don\u2019t imagine them to be very different from now. No matter how much molecular techniques and computing evolve, it will always be necessary to go to the field to observe and collect plant material, so I imagine their job as a sophistication of the current job.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"393\" class=\" size-full wp-image-41062\" src=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/06_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Barx.jpg\" alt=\"06 Trabajo de campo en Barx\" srcset=\"https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/06_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Barx.jpg 900w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/06_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Barx-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/espores.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/FOTOS_ESPORES\/ENTREVISTAS\/botmes_elena_carrio\/06_Trabajo-de-campo-en-Barx-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><br><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\">With botanists during a day of fieldwork in Barx, Val\u00e8ncia.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>How would you encourage current biology students to go into the same field as you?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I would encourage students to pursue whatever they are passionate about. I think that any path you take is hard, so if you are passionate about it, it is better, because it will be less hard. I also think that if you dedicate your life to research it is useful to know how to deal with failure, because in science it is common that experiments fail or that magazines don\u2019t want to publish your articles at the first time. Yet, it seems that this does not happen, because failures are not visible. So you need to keep in mind that it is normal to fail and that it can keep you motivated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Imagine that you have all the budget that you want. What would you improve in your job?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I would hire young and not so young researchers. I would also allocate funds for laboratory expenses. Resource limitations currently constrain the research activity of many groups. My activity is not an exception, so I suppose that with unlimited resources my job would change completely and we could offer very interesting results. Thank you for asking questions that make us dream.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Why did you choose Botany? My choice for Botany was an emotionally based decision that goes back to my childhood. I also owe this inclination to my family, especially my grandfather and my uncle, who were wonderful encouragers of my curiosity for biology and plants. 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